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hudsonc8 Shadetree Mechanic


Joined: Jan 26, 2010 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:54 pm Post subject: HELP |
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I just purchased a 1974 VW Beetle (Porsche Speedster Replica). The car starts and idles like a dream, but it hesistates at low rpms like crazy. I have changed plugs, points (gapped at .016), checked fuel filters, checked electronic choke. I am now in need of a mechanic. Does anyone know a good aircooled VW mechanic in Middle TN?
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vwlimoguy Shop Boss


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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: |
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What kind of distributor are you running? Sounds like it could be a timing issue. If you have a vacuum advance dizzy, there could be a leak in one of the lines or the diaphragm could be shot. Also double check that the accelerator pump on the carb is squirting out fuel. Take off the air filter and and pump the accelerator, you'll see a stream of gas squirt down the throat if it is working correctly.
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JT Ferdinand Himself


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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice ride!!! Contact Greg M here on the site. I don't think he is too far from you. JT
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hudsonc8 Shadetree Mechanic


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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| vwlimoguy wrote: | | What kind of distributor are you running? Sounds like it could be a timing issue. If you have a vacuum advance dizzy, there could be a leak in one of the lines or the diaphragm could be shot. Also double check that the accelerator pump on the carb is squirting out fuel. Take off the air filter and and pump the accelerator, you'll see a stream of gas squirt down the throat if it is working correctly. |
I am not very mech. inclined, but I am thinking it is a timing thing also. I have turned the distributorcounter clockwise a little to advance and it does seem to help. I do not want to go to far not having the timing light to know where to set it at. I am not familar if I have a vacuum advance? I provided a pic below?
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GregM Historian


Joined: Jun 27, 2004 Posts: 960 Location: Southern Middle Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, get the fuel filter out of the engine compartment. It will cause a fire. Put it between the frame horn (the part of the frame where the gas line comes out) and the engine tin. Secure it so it does not move.
Second, I'm having trouble telling from your picture if you are running an 009 distributor. If you are, they don't play well with a solex carb.
Third, it sounds like the middle jet is stopped up on the carb. If it idles good and accelerated well, just "Surges" at mid rpm's at steady speeds, I think it is a jet stopped up. That is the jet on the right side of the carb that has the plug screwed on top of it.
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hudsonc8 Shadetree Mechanic


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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| GregM wrote: | First of all, get the fuel filter out of the engine compartment. It will cause a fire. Put it between the frame horn (the part of the frame where the gas line comes out) and the engine tin. Secure it so it does not move.
Second, I'm having trouble telling from your picture if you are running an 009 distributor. If you are, they don't play well with a solex carb.
Third, it sounds like the middle jet is stopped up on the carb. If it idles good and accelerated well, just "Surges" at mid rpm's at steady speeds, I think it is a jet stopped up. That is the jet on the right side of the carb that has the plug screwed on top of it. |
Thanks for your information Greg. Is there a simple way of "unstopping" the jet? Also, how can i tell what kind of distributor I have?
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GregM Historian


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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Rebuilding the carb should clean out the jets. (if you clean out the jets during the rebuild)
If the Distributor is an 009, it uses centrifical forces to advance. The body of it will be smooth all the way around. If it has a vacuum advance, there will be a roundish unit sticking on the side of it and a vacuum hose going from it to the carb. Take some closer pictures of the distributor and I can tell. (or it may say 009 on the distributor)
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hudsonc8 Shadetree Mechanic


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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| GregM wrote: | Rebuilding the carb should clean out the jets. (if you clean out the jets during the rebuild)
If the Distributor is an 009, it uses centrifical forces to advance. The body of it will be smooth all the way around. If it has a vacuum advance, there will be a roundish unit sticking on the side of it and a vacuum hose going from it to the carb. Take some closer pictures of the distributor and I can tell. (or it may say 009 on the distributor) |
Here are pics of the distributor.
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Nate Loose Nut


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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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You have an 009 dizzy for sure. You will need to time this with a timing light w/ advance to get it right on.
The way to time this distributor is at full advance @ 3K rpms. Check the timing at full advance and try bumping up the timing a degree or so. You will want to run as much timing as the motor will allow without knocking and pinging under load.
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hudsonc8 Shadetree Mechanic


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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I keep hearing bad things about the 009 distributor. Is the Ignitor II (fits inside 009 dis.) any better or does everyone recommend going with a new style?
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GregM Historian


Joined: Jun 27, 2004 Posts: 960 Location: Southern Middle Tennessee
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Following Nate' instructions will give you satisfactory performance with your 009. The main complaint with an 009 is when you take your foot off the gas to go around a curve or something, there sometimes is a slight hesitation on reacceleration.
It will not cause your surges at low rpm.
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69falcon Mechanic


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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| Greg is right about the fuel filter... and use hose clamps... if the fuel line shakes loose you have gas all over the electrical system...gas and sparks are very dangerous... that's the main reason bugs catch fire
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69falcon Mechanic


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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:49 am Post subject: |
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almost forgot...nice looking engine compartment... let's see the rest!
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GregM Historian


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| 69falcon wrote: | | Greg is right about the fuel filter... and use hose clamps... if the fuel line shakes loose you have gas all over the electrical system...gas and sparks are very dangerous... that's the main reason bugs catch fire |
. . .not only that, but the filter's weight can pull the tube out of the carb and start a fire.
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69falcon Mechanic


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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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amen Greg!...
hudsonc8... what you really need to do is go out and take more pictures of the car and post them... wink wink... so we can really help you with your problem...to be honest the back looked great I just want to see the rest of your ride!
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